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#13606346 Jan 14, 2018 at 04:28 AM
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That must've been hard though, I get what you feel. Friends are defined when they do or doesn't support you especially when you needed them the most.
I used to get a line similar to that. "You're not even Filipino." "You're Korean/Japanese/Chinese" people get confused between the three when it comes to me.
anyway, it's not as bad as yours. As far as I know people say that line "You're 'insert nationality here'" are all hypocritically racist. seeing as though not being Thai or Filipino or whatever gives a a sort of disadvantage, in a way does what you looked like really matters. Isn't that the purpose of Naturalization or what you're trying to do in the first place?
even though to don't look the part.
Government rarely becomes helpful, even my country is useless. Maybe if you're stubborn enough or generous enough if you know what I mean to maybe loosen that stick up their a**es
it's a dirty trick I know, but it gets the job done. if that doesn't work I'm not good at these stuff 😫
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#13609413 Jan 16, 2018 at 06:32 AM
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#13606346 Kierwiny wrote:

That must've been hard though, I get what you feel. Friends are defined when they do or doesn't support you especially when you needed them the most.
I used to get a line similar to that. "You're not even Filipino." "You're Korean/Japanese/Chinese" people get confused between the three when it comes to me.
anyway, it's not as bad as yours. As far as I know people say that line "You're 'insert nationality here'" are all hypocritically racist. seeing as though not being Thai or Filipino or whatever gives a a sort of disadvantage, in a way does what you looked like really matters. Isn't that the purpose of Naturalization or what you're trying to do in the first place?
even though to don't look the part.
Government rarely becomes helpful, even my country is useless. Maybe if you're stubborn enough or generous enough if you know what I mean to maybe loosen that stick up their a**es
it's a dirty trick I know, but it gets the job done. if that doesn't work I'm not good at these stuff 😫




Definitely. Especially since many Thai people hold dual citizenship with western countries.I wonder how they would like it if they were refused a service for citizens of Australia/America/Europe because they look Asia? Some of my friends whom say they don't regard me as Thai say they want citizenship of a western country. When I tell them the double standard they're imposing,they just repeat ''you don't look Thai'' ,so i tell them ''you don't look european'' then they just babble on nonsense.


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#13611770 Jan 17, 2018 at 10:32 PM
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#13600730 TidusandYuna1983 wrote:

Ok. Seriously. I need to renew my Thai ID card AGAIN,because I was registered as living at my ex girlfriend's condo. My ex girlfriend sold her condo,which means my ID card becomes void,because I am no longer a resident at that property. I have to transfer to a new residential address,but because I didn't transfer before she sold her property,my identity has been transferred to some government building,and I need to bring Thai people with me to confirm who I am. The government building is far from where any of my friends are,like a 2 hour trip.

The stupid thing is,even though I own properties of my own,I can't just transfer to them,because my identity has been taken to the government building. I still have a Thai ID card,Thai passport,Thai certificate, properties in Thailand,bank accounts in Thailand, my fingerprints are on the damn government system,but this is not enough... I have to find people who will travel 2 hours with me to some stupid government building,and it will probably take another 2 hours for them to esatblish who I am,and allow me to transfer my identity to my own properties.

I am in Australia now,and I got one of my Thai friends to call the government office in Thailand and ask them what exactly do I need to do,and she said the government officer just complained how I was supposed to transfer before my ex girlfriend sold the house... Oh geez,so fuckin helpful. Then he said I need to come to that government building and explain why I am away from Thailand for so long...

I've asked some of my friends to go with me to the government building to identify me,but many of them are busy with work or they said ''it's too hard''. I told them I will pay them(more than what an average daily pay for a Thai person is),but some of my friends have said ''This problem cannot be fixed'' or ''You should give up'',but some of my friends said they will try to help me,but are negative about the situation,and understandly so since Thailand has ridiculous bureaucracy.

And to add to the stress.some of my Thai friends said ''you are not 100% Thai'' , and I said yeah,and ''many Thai are genetically Khmer,Lao,Chinese etc'', and then they reply with snarky ''but you weren't born in Thailand'', and I told them ,neither was the recent king who died,or neither were some of Thailand's former prime minisers, then they said ''but they have 2 Thai parents'' (even though many Thai people are half Chinese or half Lao).

I spoke to one of my Thai friends,he's a decent person,he said he wants to help me but he lives in Sweden. He admitted what I've always said ,it's simply because I don't look Asian I'm goling to have many problems. He said if I look Asian,I could probably go to the government building alone and they would reestablish my identity and let me transfer,but having European features means they will try to use every technicality against me.

I've mentioned to you guys before back in 2012,when I was at a government building,I wanted to renew my Thai ID card,and the boss stamped and signed my papers to say I could renew my ID card,but one of the office workers(his job was to take photos for the ID card),refused to do it. He said ''You are not Thai''. I explained to him I have all the documentation,and my finger prints are on the system. He just repeated,''No,you are not Thai,you need to bring your Thai relatives here''. I got angry and started yelling, but one of the other officers calmed me down,and she told me she will speak to the boss for me,and the boss came out and told him to take the damn photo. This piece of shit thought it was his right to override the boss's decision and ignore the Thai law,simply because a caucasian looking person has Thai nationality.

It's bad enough dealing with stupid government laws,but then my own friends won't help me by saying it's too hard or ''you're not really Thai''.



It's racism. I'm sorry you're going through that. I hope you're not getting any grief from our government. What about your job?
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#13612280 Jan 18, 2018 at 06:37 AM · Edited 1 hour ago
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#13611770 Falconer wrote:

#13600730 TidusandYuna1983 wrote:

Ok. Seriously. I need to renew my Thai ID card AGAIN,because I was registered as living at my ex girlfriend's condo. My ex girlfriend sold her condo,which means my ID card becomes void,because I am no longer a resident at that property. I have to transfer to a new residential address,but because I didn't transfer before she sold her property,my identity has been transferred to some government building,and I need to bring Thai people with me to confirm who I am. The government building is far from where any of my friends are,like a 2 hour trip.

The stupid thing is,even though I own properties of my own,I can't just transfer to them,because my identity has been taken to the government building. I still have a Thai ID card,Thai passport,Thai certificate, properties in Thailand,bank accounts in Thailand, my fingerprints are on the damn government system,but this is not enough... I have to find people who will travel 2 hours with me to some stupid government building,and it will probably take another 2 hours for them to esatblish who I am,and allow me to transfer my identity to my own properties.

I am in Australia now,and I got one of my Thai friends to call the government office in Thailand and ask them what exactly do I need to do,and she said the government officer just complained how I was supposed to transfer before my ex girlfriend sold the house... Oh geez,so fuckin helpful. Then he said I need to come to that government building and explain why I am away from Thailand for so long...

I've asked some of my friends to go with me to the government building to identify me,but many of them are busy with work or they said ''it's too hard''. I told them I will pay them(more than what an average daily pay for a Thai person is),but some of my friends have said ''This problem cannot be fixed'' or ''You should give up'',but some of my friends said they will try to help me,but are negative about the situation,and understandly so since Thailand has ridiculous bureaucracy.

And to add to the stress.some of my Thai friends said ''you are not 100% Thai'' , and I said yeah,and ''many Thai are genetically Khmer,Lao,Chinese etc'', and then they reply with snarky ''but you weren't born in Thailand'', and I told them ,neither was the recent king who died,or neither were some of Thailand's former prime minisers, then they said ''but they have 2 Thai parents'' (even though many Thai people are half Chinese or half Lao).

I spoke to one of my Thai friends,he's a decent person,he said he wants to help me but he lives in Sweden. He admitted what I've always said ,it's simply because I don't look Asian I'm goling to have many problems. He said if I look Asian,I could probably go to the government building alone and they would reestablish my identity and let me transfer,but having European features means they will try to use every technicality against me.

I've mentioned to you guys before back in 2012,when I was at a government building,I wanted to renew my Thai ID card,and the boss stamped and signed my papers to say I could renew my ID card,but one of the office workers(his job was to take photos for the ID card),refused to do it. He said ''You are not Thai''. I explained to him I have all the documentation,and my finger prints are on the system. He just repeated,''No,you are not Thai,you need to bring your Thai relatives here''. I got angry and started yelling, but one of the other officers calmed me down,and she told me she will speak to the boss for me,and the boss came out and told him to take the damn photo. This piece of shit thought it was his right to override the boss's decision and ignore the Thai law,simply because a caucasian looking person has Thai nationality.

It's bad enough dealing with stupid government laws,but then my own friends won't help me by saying it's too hard or ''you're not really Thai''.



It's racism. I'm sorry you're going through that. I hope you're not getting any grief from our government. What about your job?



I look more caucasian than Asian,so I don't really have to worry much about racism in Australia,plus government buildings in Australia have lots of Asians and Indians working for them. Either way,Australian laws protect Australians from discrimination,if Centerlink refused an Australian citizen service based on race,they could sue that Centerlink office and the media will have a field day. Even though Thailand technically has laws against racial discrimination,they're not enforced. The Thai government officers could just say ''I had doubts as to whether he is Thai '' to avoid getting in trouble for racism (even though my finger prints are on the government system and I have all the documentation). This stunt wont work in Australia,because they will need to explain why they had doubt,and saying somebody isn't caucasian isn't good enough,especially if they have all the documentation to show they're Australian.

I've been working 2 days per week at my father's Ford dealership,soon I will go back to Thailand on January 30.


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