Notify Message
Forums
#12923518 Dec 15, 2016 at 04:41 PM
Sergeant
4467 Posts
#12922906 JCSBEARMEAT wrote:

#12922640 Falconer wrote:

I looks like I might have some form of arthritis...

Oh dang, that isn't good. However, as long as you an grasp a controller, all is well, right? 😋

lol
+0
#12923760 Dec 15, 2016 at 06:35 PM
686 Posts
Does arthritis comes in aging?
is sure that everyone will someday have it too? just curious.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Kierwinyoung
Deviantart: http://kierwiny.deviantart.com/
PSN: kierwiny
Xbox: Pinkiepie1124
STEAM: Magical Noirina
Battle.net: SantaBarbara
U-Play: SantaBarbara117
GoG: Santa_Barbara
+0
#12924061 Dec 15, 2016 at 09:48 PM
Sergeant
4467 Posts
You can get arthritis as young as 4.

I went to the doctor today and the news I got was actually a bit worse. I ended up in hospital undergoing a lot of tests. One of the tests was for MS so I'm a bit scared now.
+0
#12924089 Dec 15, 2016 at 10:07 PM
383 Posts
Hope your results come back negative for anything bad. 😞


+0
#12924108 Dec 15, 2016 at 10:24 PM
686 Posts
My my, I hope you get better and have a healthy happy life to you and us all
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Kierwinyoung
Deviantart: http://kierwiny.deviantart.com/
PSN: kierwiny
Xbox: Pinkiepie1124
STEAM: Magical Noirina
Battle.net: SantaBarbara
U-Play: SantaBarbara117
GoG: Santa_Barbara
+0
#12925158 Dec 16, 2016 at 11:42 AM
Sergeant
4467 Posts
Thanks guys. I'll keep you updated. Sadly this close to Christmas I mightn't know for a while. It hurts to type so I'll try again later.
+0
#12925227 Dec 16, 2016 at 12:19 PM
383 Posts
#12925158 Falconer wrote:

Thanks guys. I'll keep you updated. Sadly this close to Christmas I mightn't know for a while. It hurts to type so I'll try again later.



Yeah,I've had a lot of bad luck around Christmas nearly every year. I refer to it as 'the Christmas curse'.


+0
#12926308 Dec 16, 2016 at 11:53 PM
Sergeant
4467 Posts
#12925227 TidusandYuna1983 wrote:

#12925158 Falconer wrote:

Thanks guys. I'll keep you updated. Sadly this close to Christmas I mightn't know for a while. It hurts to type so I'll try again later.



Yeah,I've had a lot of bad luck around Christmas nearly every year. I refer to it as 'the Christmas curse'.


Yup got the curse this year. They took a whole lot of blood from me today and I learned about how they test for MS. If you are as scared of needles as I am stop reading now.

If my blood test and x-rays come up with nothing they will have to preform a lumbar puncture on me. This involves strapping me down and inserting a needle straight into my spine.
+0
#12926463 Dec 17, 2016 at 03:29 AM
686 Posts
Are those things like the ones they to do Pregnant Women going to labor?
I just saw some in other science videos in TV and school and/or just in my own curiosity.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Kierwinyoung
Deviantart: http://kierwiny.deviantart.com/
PSN: kierwiny
Xbox: Pinkiepie1124
STEAM: Magical Noirina
Battle.net: SantaBarbara
U-Play: SantaBarbara117
GoG: Santa_Barbara
+0
#12926605 Dec 17, 2016 at 05:37 AM
Officer
1174 Posts
#12926463 Kierwiny wrote:

Are those things like the ones they to do Pregnant Women going to labor?
I just saw some in other science videos in TV and school and/or just in my own curiosity.



I think you're thinking of an epidural. I hope all your tests come back okay mate, I hate needles and can't imagine having to get one into my spine 😕


+0
#12926972 Dec 17, 2016 at 09:45 AM
Sergeant
4467 Posts
Thanks.

My mum said that she had to have a needle there during my birth. Apparently my heart stopped and they had to preform an emergency C-section.

Hopefully I'll have news in the next 74 hours.
+0
#12928047 Dec 17, 2016 at 07:45 PM
686 Posts
Getting blood is one thing but down my spine. I hope when I get those I'm asleep or at least unaware of the pain of it. or hell I hope I don't get those.
anyway. I'll be hoping for your health. ^_^
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Kierwinyoung
Deviantart: http://kierwiny.deviantart.com/
PSN: kierwiny
Xbox: Pinkiepie1124
STEAM: Magical Noirina
Battle.net: SantaBarbara
U-Play: SantaBarbara117
GoG: Santa_Barbara
+1
#12929086 Dec 18, 2016 at 10:07 AM
107 Posts


How many of you have seen my second favorite TV show of all time, Spartacus? Much like my favorite one, Firefly, I periodically go back to rewatch this show. In fact you might say I have a bit of an obsession with it.

So what do I love about the show so much; the 300-style bloodfest? The liberal amount of sex? The answer really is in the dialogue. I love the way the dialogue was written. It seems this may be a major factor in if I like a show; if it is written smartly. Whedon's genius for dialogue in Firefly is a no brainer. Just listening to their banter is the best part about the show, and even a show like The Tick was great largely because of the way they spoke, but Spartacus takes smart dialogue and twirls it around into an archaic way a speaking that feels so natural that it would be easy to believe that English used to sound like that. So lend ear and receive reason; I'll tell you how deep my Sparty rabbit hole goes.



My obsession really formed around this crappy, free to play PSN/XBL title. When it launched it had BIG problems. Here's my review from back then:


Here's a Great Example of how Free-to-Play Ruins Good Ideas

User Rating: 5.5 | Spartacus Legends PS3

By Uesugi-dono | Review Date: June 27, 2013

So, Spartacus Legends is out. In many ways this is exactly the kind of game I've been waiting for; you own a Ludus (Gladiator School) and you buy and train gladiators to compete (online against other players) for glory and honor. Literally there couldn't be a better idea for an online multiplayer game. So someone took this GRAND idea and sh*t all over it.


- Free-to-Play is the industry's new way to say "Golly gee, I hope we can convince idiot gamers to spend 150 dollars on a DLC pack that gives them 3000 gold!" I know this because this is HOW MUCH a 3k gold pack costs for Spartacus Legends. Notice the word 'hope' in that equation. They're not totally stupid; they know full well people will most likely elect NOT to spend 150 REAL dollars for 3000 digital gold coins to spend in a single video game so they chose to NOT give Spartacus Legends a decent budget to develop on.

Spartacus Legends is a 5.5 at best. Many will call it far lower. It is, however, fun... if you can get past its horrid, terrible, almost sinful flaws. You can buy gladiators, train them, (although training is a loose term for 'fight computer opponents.') and then go online against other people's champions (through a broken match-making system that can actually lock your system up when your opponent decides to wuss out of a fight and disconnect after seeing your level compared to theirs) but you just cannot do any of these things to a satisfactory degree. Gameplay is primitive, which is actually the nicest thing I can say about it, and the damage models on the characters are always the same, just like Dragon Age: Origins. Just one missed opportunity after another. In all honesty the best way to describe this game is it looks like a port of a PS2 game.

If you do decide to devote any time to this game you can have some fun, it's actually possible, but it will leave you with a sour taste in your mouth. This game was done WRONG. Free-to-Play is wrong. This is just another example of just why it's wrong.


Given its lackluster launch and the Pay-to-Win antics that plagued it I did eventually wander back to it and what I found surprised me. Here are my follow up thoughts:

I reviewed this long before but now it has seized me. I play obsessively, logging in daily to get my rewards, compete in challenges, and stab other living people in the brain; a pasttime that I am shockingly good at all of the sudden.

I've never been much of a multiplayer/online game. I'm of that old school stock that knew multiplayer as two people, side by side on a couch or at an arcade cabinet, following an unspoken covenant of archaic rules as they either fought to the death or cooperated to bring down goals that seemed impossible alone. When Street Fighter IV first appeared I eagerly logged in to play beat-a-fool but the situation was IMMEDIATELY soured by fireball spammers and other honorless curs who kept calling me a scrub. The problems I had extended on to each and every MP game I tried to play; always there was some kid, 140 levels higher than me, who would spam an attack or call in an airstrike, or some other unbalanced shit that resulted in my experience being "spawn, die, repeat' until it just sickened me. Somehow Sparatacus avoids that.

First I applaud the EXCELLENT match-making. Rarely have I ever fought anyone who was more than 3 levels above me. Sure, some spent real-money to skip ahead an buy advanced equipment but none of that resulted in cheesy kills. Yeah, kids still spam attack buttons but since each style has its own strategy this can be overcome by smart tactics. The result is the BEST competitive MP online I have ever been part of. The next closest thing is the MP from Assbro! I don't win all the time but I can honestly say when I lose I deserve to, on the whole.

Spartacus isn't perfect, graphically it is a boor, and for all Ubisoft's efforts to monetize it they sure haven't done shit with DLC like new styles, more weapons, or new arenas. It has it's share of glitches, occasional connection hiccups, and an UNFORGIVING rule in place for disconnects that punishes EVERYONE. Disconnect too often, even through no fault of your own, and your gladiator is FORFEIT; that is to say deleted! The surprising result is I have yet to see anyone rage-quit. (According to the forums this problem was more prevalent on Xbox.) Yet, despite all these niggling qualms, it manages to be a fun game to play.

I was a HUGE fan of the show, in full disclosure, although I haven't seen all the seasons. This isn't for the squeamish... or the prudish. While the official title of season one was Spartacus: Blood and Sand we all just called it Spartacus: Blood and Horse C**k. It is unforgiving in its portrayal of ancient Rome's savage and carnal pastimes. The game spares you any of the sex and the gore is comically underrepresented by paltry graphics but it still manages to scratch that itch left by the passing of the show.

My new favorite strategy is to buy crap-slaves on the cheap at 420 silver and then match them in life-or-death contests where even death results in 450 silver and success means a payout of over 3000! As a Lanista, losing my fear of losing my gladiators meant that my Ludus is starting to prosper. Sure, I lose a slave here or there (There is an option to resurrect them but at a starting price of 1500 silver for a slave worth only 420 it can become an economic decision very quickly) but the big picture is that I a now raking in the coins, both silver and gold. And that's what makes this a better game than what it used to be...

At launch this game featured only two ways to get gold; 1) buy it for real money (up to 3k gold for 149.99) or 2) raise your level; whereas you'd make the paltry sum of 4 gold. Gold is spent for things like high rated gladiators, early access to advanced equipment, changing perks (available when you actually kill an opponent and they act as a boost to your stats,) or they can be traded in for massive amounts of silver (but never the other way around.) If you frequently resurrect your slaves the price quickly goes from silver to gold as well. Under the old system just getting 4 coins could take HOURS of grinding but now, with daily challenges and rewards, I can make 20-30 gold in just 15 fights! This new setup means that Spartacus has gone from pay-to-play to a true free-to-play game.

How do you measure a real rating for a game? If you're like me, in addition to considerations for graphics, music, controls etc there is the element of Fun. Fun brought my favorite game, Blood Will Tell, from my initial rating of 6.5 to a 10. I initially gave Spartacus a 6.5...

Now I easily give it an 8.


Even now I sort of want to get back to my daily Spartacus Legends adventures. The game needs work but, as it stands, can still be a lot of fun to play competitively. After I drifted out of it, however, that's when my real obsession began.

That's when I found my favorite board game of all time. Spartacus: A Game of Blood and Sand is a masterpiece of tabletop engineering. To call it a board game is a little disingenuous; it's really a card game about stabbing your friends in the back with a board added for gladiator fights. Here is my (rather long) review of it:



Full Review - Spartacus: A Game of Blood and Treachery
by Uesugi-dono on January 14, 2015 at 01:13 PM 2,279 Views

I am a sucker for a good board game. Let’s face it: I’m a sucker for all kinds of games, but there’s a charm to board games that is often lacking in video games. Most video games these days offer online multiplayer but, for me at least, playing a video game with online multiplayer is akin to playing a board game alone. For this reason acquiring a new board game is sort of like a treat; an excuse to gather together a group of people (often like herding cats) and sit around a table trading insults, devouring pizza, and laughing like schoolchildren well into the wee hours of the morning. While this is a rare treat, I do have several great games: the excellent card game Honor of the Samurai, the Lovecraftian super-game Arkham Horror, and the best cross between a board game and a role-playing game I’ve ever seen; Firefly which was reviewed by @nightcrawlerash13 on this site and for which I posted our House Rules. The excellence of Firefly is precisely what led me to my latest acquisition; Spartacus: A Game of Blood and Treachery by Gale Force Nine. Being a fan of both the show and the Free-to-Play game it was kind of a no brainer that I would enjoy this game but after a few sessions I would put forward that this board game is not only different from most, it is one of the best games I’ve ever played.





One of the first impressions this game gives you is the attractive, sleek, compact box design that seems to be a trademark of Gale Force Nine. Started as a design company producing miniatures for other games in 1988, GF9 has expanded into one of the best board game companies out there. In addition to creating counters, markers, tokens, templates, and terrain for use with the most popular miniature and role-playing games including Dungeons & Dragons, Battlefield in a Box, and Dust (a kind of futuristic WWII game that looks pretty sweet) GF9 has won acclaim for creating superb games based on Firefly as well as Sons of Anarchy. Now I have not played the latter but I can speak for Firefly as great fun, wonderful immersion, and light competition. But when it comes to a game where political intrigue crosses combat between players you’ll not have a better time betraying your friends than with Spartacus!




The first thing you’ll notice about this game as you set it up is that it really isn’t a board game. The only board is the combat area with hexes sure to take you back to your D&D days, which is only used during one phase of a game round. Spartacus is, first and foremost, a card game of back alley wheeling and dealing seasoned with outright bribery and spiced with outrageous boasts! The arena is where each round culminates in a fight between two players’ gladiators. With the first expansion, The Serpents and the Wolf, arena combat takes on a whole new dimension with the addition of Primus fights between two teams of gladiators featuring four players. Spiced further with House Rules the arena is a place of exciting combat and gambling on the outcome of these spectacles but it is what leads you to the arena that is the true meat of this game.




Each player, between three and four of them (six with the expansion,) assumes the role of a Dominus; the master of a house. The goal of the game is to amass 12 Influence points. Game length can be altered for a shorter or longer game by setting the starting Influence for each Dominus. Need a shorter game that can be played in less than two hours? Then start Influence at 6 or 7, but if you’ve got the nerve (and the time) for a longer game then start at 1 and see desire for intrigue well sated! Only, expect such a game to run in excess of four hours depending on distraction and the experience level of your players! For our big game featuring the expansion, six players, and a few House Rules we played for eight hours, but I should mention we had three smokers in our group who kept halting play to satisfy their vice, a house full of children, and my wife kept cluttering our table with food!









A Dominus’ house consists of his house card, which lists his Special Rules and Starting Assets as well as provides a place to keep track of his Treasury and his Influence in addition to his Slave, Gladiator, Equipment, and Guard cards. During the first phase of a Round the Dominus must perform Upkeep; refreshing any cards that were exhausted, healing any injuries that his gladiators may have, as well as balancing his ledgers: making 1 gold for each slave possessed and paying 1 for each gladiator he stables. To represent his gladiator in the arena he also takes 1 gladiator figurine.



There isn’t much to these figurines and they don’t represent the equipment your gladiator carries. Someone skilled in painting miniatures can certainly make these look nice but otherwise they only exist, along with the board, to represent your position in the arena. Combat is accomplished with dice, which I’ll speak on later, but as a House Rule I did color code the base of these figurines to denote Front and Back as well as Left and Right: Front and Rear Flanks to give the combat more depth and make it more strategic.



Moving into the next part of the round starts the Intrigue Phase. This is when each Dominus takes 3 new cards into their hand, its size determined by Influence. From here the players take turns playing Schemes or Reactions. A Scheme is designed to gain a Dominus Gold or Influence but it may also be used to harass one’s rivals. Each Scheme bears a level of Influence so if your Dominus only has 4 Influence he cannot commit to a Scheme that has a rating of 6… without help. This is where the back alley deals come in. You may promise another player many things; gold, favors, even assets from your house, and if they agree you can execute your Scheme. You do not have to reveal your plot to your ally, indeed you do not even have to make good on your deal! If you have a card that removes 1 Influence from another player you can promise gold for a player’s assistance, gain his Influence to execute your Scheme, then you may target the very player that helped you and, to top it all off, refuse to pay him the gold promised! Yeah, it can be like that.



To counter such nefarious plots you play Reactions. There are special Reaction cards called Guards that can be played directly into your house that can foil plots on the roll of a die, but then there are situational Reaction cards, such as the hilariously named card above. Like the Schemes each Reaction card requires a certain amount of Influence to use but these cannot be bolstered by an ally; in Reaction you must act alone.



Once all Intrigue has been concluded play moves into the Market Phase. The first part of this phase is called Open Market and this is when the players may deal amongst themselves. Want to make offer on another Dominus’ Slaves? Need to barter in gold and trade for a much-needed Guard? Or you may even make a desperate offer to persuade a rival to part with a favored gladiator in exchange for gold during this segment, something that rarely happens! Once Open Market is concluded play moves to the Auction. Cards are dealt from the Market deck totaling the number of players and are laid face down on the table. At this point all players hide their gold and the first card is turned over. Be it Slave, Gladiator, or Equipment now is the time to bid; players place their bid inside a closed fist and hold their hand over the table, to be revealed simultaneously. The winner takes the card but ties continue with higher and higher bids until someone takes the prize. We found this to be one of the most entertaining aspects to this game: some pretty terrible cards valued as little as 1 gold went for as much as 8! Once that portion is included bidding moves to the Host of the next games, arguably one of the most valued positions in the game.





The position of Host is the most direct path to Influence. The Host is guaranteed 1 Influence point at the start of each Arena phase. For this reason the right to Host has gone as high as 33 gold in the game we played! The Host invites to houses to field gladiators in the arena. To refuse a Host is to lose a point of Influence but to field a slave or gladiator against a favored champion could mean certain death for an asset of a Dominus. Losing isn’t always bad, for while you cannot bet against your own gladiator to throw a match you can bet on an Injury or a Decapitation occurring, the windfall from which can help dull pain upon expected loss. A Host may also invite their self, opening an opportunity to score 2 Influence in a single phase.



Combat in the arena is determined by dice. Each number represents one of three different dice pools; Red are Attack Dice, Black are Defense, and Blue are Movement. Taken together the total dice a gladiator has are his Hit Points. Each point of damage struck means a player must remove one die from the pool, Attack, Defense, or Movement. When one pool is completely depleted the gladiator is beaten, if two are emptied in one attack he is Injured, but if an attack is strong enough to empty all three pools the gladiator is Decapitated and must be removed from the game. Combat begins by both players rolling their Blue Movement dice. The highest roll is the winner. The winner may then chose to move first or second and may move the number of hexes that he has movement dice for. Attacking is handled by comparing dice highest to lowest. So an attacker with 3 Red Attack Dice who rolls a 6, 4, and 1 V.S. a defender with 4 who rolls 5, 5, and 3 must compare dice; attacker 6 beats defender 5 but the attacker 4 and 1 are beaten by the defender’s 5 and 3 meaning the defender takes 1 die of damage. It’s a simple and easy way to manage combat. At combat’s conclusion the loser, if he lives or is just Injured, must see his fate decided by the Host. Like most things in this game the Host may accept bribes to influence his decision but thumbs up or thumbs down, the loser’s life is in the Host’s hands.



If you have seen the show then you probably have a burning question. The answer is “No,” the rampant sex of the T.V. show is not featured in the board game. That doesn’t mean the game is vanilla, however. It still deals in human slavery, violent combat for entertainment purposes, and ceaseless treachery. It also features a few “colorful” words, one printed right on the inner box. Some of the cards feature humorous but raunchy titles and others have outright profanity printed in small font as a quote from the character they represent. If you don’t mind cards that allow you to force another player to “Accept a Deeper Ramming” or naughty quotes then you won’t have a problem with this game. There is no nudity featured anywhere in the game nor are there any sexual situations depicted beyond metaphor. The game is rated 17 and older for profanity and violence and beyond that parents should use their own discretion but I can say you will find FAR worse in games like Cards Against Humanity.



Overall Spartacus: A Game of Blood and Treachery is one of my very favorite games and, given opportunity, I will choose it above any other form of gaming at the present time. It reaffirms my belief that a Spartacus-themed video game, done right and not free-to-play, would be an incredible experience. Ideally I would love to see one that not only covers the excitement of the arena but also delves into the military campaign behind the Third Servile War that the movies, shows, and games are based upon. If you have a gaming group that enjoys table top play you should really check out this game. In terms of rating I consider this game to be the cream of the crop; great for a fun night of backstabbing, coercion, and combat!



Spartacus: A Game of Blood and Treachery – 10



So yeah, big fan of that. But my obsession went a littel further. THis summer my wife bought me a ticket to Spartacon, an honest-to-god convention all about Spartacus featuring the cast and crew! So I drove 11 hours, alone, to Washington DC just for this convention and then drove 11 hours home and went right to work on a 12 hour shift! It was totally worth it though. I got to meet a big chunk of the crew and even hang out (via a VIP pass) with Liam McIntyre, who you may recognize as the voice of Marcus Fenix. ;)



I have also been toying around with writing a tabletop RPG based on being a Lanista and running a Ludus. I don't know if that will ever see the light of day, but there's just something about gladiators that I really dig.

Sorry to make such a big deal about this, but I figured if anyone cared about Gladiator stuff at all it must be the Warrior Clan, right? 😜

Thanks for reading.
+0
#12929089 Dec 18, 2016 at 10:08 AM · Edited 1 year ago
Leader
1893 Posts
The epidural is a delicate thing. The tech needs to push with some force to get thru the sheath, but then stop as soon as he breaks through to keep from damaging nerves. I've had it done several times when I was having back trouble. I insisted on using the same guy each time because he was good at it.

"Play is the highest form of research, a chance to discover who we are, or maybe who we want to become." - Albert Einstein
Those who play games know why they do. To discover worlds, to challenge our fingers, and our minds. To connect with friends, or maybe just to escape.
Games are about possibilities, the paths we take as well as the ones we don't.
View unread posts


+0
#12929111 Dec 18, 2016 at 10:18 AM
Leader
1893 Posts
Yes, I watched the Spartacus TV series. It was great. I was sad when it was over.

"Play is the highest form of research, a chance to discover who we are, or maybe who we want to become." - Albert Einstein
Those who play games know why they do. To discover worlds, to challenge our fingers, and our minds. To connect with friends, or maybe just to escape.
Games are about possibilities, the paths we take as well as the ones we don't.
View unread posts


+0
#12929129 Dec 18, 2016 at 10:28 AM
107 Posts
#12929111 Masiv wrote:

Yes, I watched the Spartacus TV series. It was great. I was sad when it was over.



One of the saddest things about it was the death of Andy Whitfield, but Liam did a fine job and he's a great guy.

Sorry I kind of hijacked this thread there, I guess I could have made my own.
+0
#12929215 Dec 18, 2016 at 11:15 AM
Sergeant
4467 Posts
Afraid I don't watch TV unless it is news or a documentary. We have a thread dedicated to TV shows HERE
+0
#12929219 Dec 18, 2016 at 11:16 AM
Sergeant
4467 Posts
#12929089 Masiv wrote:

The epidural is a delicate thing. The tech need to push with some force to get thru the sheath, but then stop as soon as he breaks through to keep from damaging nerves. I've had it done several times when I was having back trouble. I insisted on using the same guy each time because he was good at it.



I probably don't want to know this but is it painful?
+0
#12931797 Dec 19, 2016 at 12:57 PM
Leader
1893 Posts
#12929219 Falconer wrote:

#12929089 Masiv wrote:

The epidural is a delicate thing. The tech need to push with some force to get thru the sheath, but then stop as soon as he breaks through to keep from damaging nerves. I've had it done several times when I was having back trouble. I insisted on using the same guy each time because he was good at it.

I probably don't want to know this but is it painful?
Not bad. It's pressure, pressure, then pop, he's in. I was more fearful than painful.

"Play is the highest form of research, a chance to discover who we are, or maybe who we want to become." - Albert Einstein
Those who play games know why they do. To discover worlds, to challenge our fingers, and our minds. To connect with friends, or maybe just to escape.
Games are about possibilities, the paths we take as well as the ones we don't.
View unread posts


+1
#12932174 Dec 19, 2016 at 03:18 PM
Officer
1174 Posts
The first two seasons of Spartacus where amazing, I gave the third a try but without Andy it just didn't feel right to me. Liam is a good actor and did a fine job of it but i just tend to get really put off with cast changes regardless of the reason, the only time it never bothered me was Stargate SG-1 because they brought in Ben Browder from Farscape to replace Richard Dean Anderson so in that case I was actually rather happy 😃

If your looking for more Andy Whitfield you could give Gabriel a try, it is a story about angels but quite different and twisted.


+0